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K1ng Splurge
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Posted - 2014.08.20 08:15:00 -
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B. Selling Items and Objects
You may not transfer, sell or auction, or buy or accept any offer to transfer, sell or auction (or offer to do any of the foregoing), any content appearing within the Game environment, including without limitation characters, character attributes, items, currency, and objects, other than via a permitted Character Transfer as described in section 3 above. You may not encourage or induce any other person to participate in such a prohibited transaction. The buying, selling or auctioning (or any attempt at doing so) of characters, character attributes, items, currency, or objects, whether through online auctions, newsgroups, postings on message boards or any other means is prohibited by the EULA and a violation of CCP's proprietary rights in the Game.
Is what we call RMT or Real Money Trade. This form of buying ISK is NOT allowed at all in any way. You cannot buy ISK for real life money.
ISK buying and selling is against the EULA. Such ISK is confiscated (Typically double the amount is taken away so you can be in the negative) by the GMs and your account may be banned or suspended for being involved in it. Help keep the game balanced by reporting anyone eve-mailing or convoing you to buy ISK for real cash. No matter what website you see or go to no matter how "legal" they say it is. Buying ISK for Real life cash is RMT and a violation of the EULA.
Based on what i read above, doesn't that also apply to all users buying plex from Marquee Dragon and then accepting additional bonus isk for doing so from Somerblink?
That then raises, if that was considered RMT and stopped, why wasn't every user who done it banned? Since they (including myself) all accepted EULA when we started playing eve.
Because according to CCP "RMT = instant ban?"
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K1ng Splurge
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2014.08.20 08:57:00 -
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Arkady Romanov wrote:Brahan Seer wrote:a long post It's a pity you didn't bother to read the first dozen or so pages of this thread, because if you had, you could have saved yourself the effort of writing this horribly ignorant post. Somer hung himself by trying to engage in RMT for the second time. End of story.
Surely if its a second time, everyone who now took part should also be banned if Somer does?
If somer gets banned due to RMT, he is the seller, surely the buyers should be banned as well otherwise what gives? |
K1ng Splurge
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2014.08.20 09:00:00 -
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KaRa DaVuT wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:KaRa DaVuT wrote:So, all of a sudden somer closes its doors, and Its ok?
I mean He acted against EULA and what willh appen? He will walk out of the door?
Really? I don't think anyone is saying that. At least, not anyone that wanted this to happen in the first place. It does rather bother me that Somer's accounts aren't locked pending investigation, though. Thats the thing bothers me too. I mean think that what will happen If ever someone claimed that someone is RMT'ing.. THey will immediately frozen the account and start investigate.. In this case guy walks out of the door. I mean I dont what them to hang the guy but seriously.. Do something to show that you are not dropping the ball on this and show us that he will get the penalty of his actions... I really demand justice. I ( and every other capsuleer in New Eden) wants to see that CCP is treating everyone equally on these kind of incidents. nothing else.. I demand an act of trust...
I love how everyone is demanding justice!!!
Justice to you idiots would be Somer being banned, in turn banning every user who took part in Somerblink for bonus rewards and or "the new plex system" basically crippling eve online because 50% of users in eve played blink at some point.
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K1ng Splurge
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2014.08.20 09:10:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Last I remember hearing, CCP's policy towards ISK buyers is to remove the ISK and warn them on the first event.
They will be removing alot of isk from many accounts should their investigation turn out to be a RMT, fair enough?
Also, assuming we done it multiple times, does it count as a first offense or multiple offenses?
So again, multiple PLEX purchases for bonus or "new scheme" would be bannable.
RubyPorto wrote:ISK sellers are the only ones who get the instant perma-banhammer.
Hardly seems fair but valid and i don't disagree with this.
RubyPorto wrote:Also, Blink advertised the RMT scheme as CCP approved. That lie from a formerly reputable source reduces the level of responsibility the buyers have.
Everyone is going by the assumption that somer's mails he advertised on the site aren't legit, should they turn out to be accurate and true and the intent behind the new RMT scheme was legit, who then takes the blame?
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K1ng Splurge
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2014.08.20 09:12:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Also, Blink advertised the RMT scheme as CCP approved. That lie from a formerly reputable source reduces the level of responsibility the buyers have.
Which leads me to suggest that they should be lenient towards those who used it. Warnings perhaps, but no isk removal (that would be a ridiculous mess) and no bans.[/quote]
But how is that fair towards Somer? I thought CCP was fair and just in their pursuit in RMT?
Surely banning somer or the punishment should be equal to those who took part?
You basically saying, its ok if we all beat someone to death but only he who actually lays the final blow counts for punishment?
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K1ng Splurge
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2014.08.20 09:17:00 -
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Arrendis wrote:And, if you'll look, it appears the only one calling for your head (and those of everyone else who functioned as Somer's unwitting pawns in this)... is you.
GÇ£It is better to risk saving a guilty person than to condemn an innocent one.GÇ¥ |
K1ng Splurge
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2014.08.20 09:19:00 -
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Arrendis wrote:Those who acted in good faith, with a reasonable assumption of good faith and legitimacy on the part of the other party, should not face the same punishment as the individual who acted in bad faith and tricked others into breaking the rules, no.
And we are assuming CCP will decide on the difference between bad faith and good faith?
Taking into account the start of this entire mess in the first place being CCP giving faction ships? Endorsing it?
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K1ng Splurge
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2014.08.20 09:35:00 -
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Arrendis wrote:Adrie Atticus wrote:This thread is the sole reason USA needs military vehicles for their police forces. Mob justice is king and no one listens to the 99% who are trying to act in a sensible manner.
Only way to crack down on a mob is to have bigger toys and actively use them. Precisely what 'mob justice' are you seeing in the thread? Falcon's team has been investigating. Nothing anyone has said in this thread has changed that fact. Somer shut down his site because he didn't like what he was hearing from CCP. Not from us, from CCP. Where's the mob?
He may be referring to us as "mob" with our discussion on this thread.
Arrendis wrote:Minor quibble: I believe you mean 'tiresome'.
Substantive reply: As a point, right now we have absolutely no evidence that CCP forced Somer to shut Blink down. He did that. He is the only one who destroyed the part of his operation that wasn't breaking any rules. By his own words this decision was his. That's not speculation. That's what he said, on his site.
To assert anything else is speculation.
Well said Arrendis
Again, everyone waits for an "official post" or announcement but while we do, some community members, such as myself, enjoy a debate that won't end up with ISD blocking all our posts.
GÇ£Time spent arguing is, oddly enough, almost never wasted.GÇ¥ |
K1ng Splurge
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2014.08.20 13:10:00 -
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KaRa DaVuT wrote:For the sake of gaining the trust of the community back, that change is crucial.
Being the sole sane guy in there, your job is hard but I am sure that you wil achieve this also.
Although please, let CCP know that, to prove they are treating people equally, they have to treay somerset mahm like every other RMT'r out there.
I am not trying to "hang" the guy, but I simply demand equal treatment.
You've posted the same thing over and over. We get it, you mad and love CCP Falcon.
So clam your roll and let things flow  |
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